Where did Francois Hollande (François Hollande)? While his former Minister Emmanuel macron (Emmanuel Macron) at the Elysee Palace is dealing with a serious crisis of popularity and the new social protests, the former President toured. Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, South Korea, Greece, but most importantly, France. Since the release of his new book “Lessons of power” he held over 80 meetings. “Espresso” (Espresso) interviewed him in Paris in his office on the Rue de Rivoli, located two steps from the Louvre in the company of his faithful black Labrador Fillet.
Espresso: Mr Hollande, You left the Elysee Palace and a half years ago. What can You tell me about your presidential term?
Francois Hollande: I am guided by the significance of events, and what most shocked France during my presidency is the attacks. History will retain the image of France, which was attacked, which wounded, but she was able to resist and move on, having overcome the shock of events. The French remember this moment of my presidency, I remember the firmness and humanity. What I’m proud of, it’s the fact that France was able to take the heads of States and governments around the world on 11 January 2015 to praise the importance of freedom for the whole world, because it is committed to freedom today of the assassination, and it is often associated with France. In terms of the economy as a result of my measures, we achieved results which, although implemented with some delay, but still there. Finally, the issue of marriage for all: it was a battle of ideas and the parliamentary fight, and we won the battle, now the law of irreversible. I was annoyed that I couldn’t nominate his candidacy for a second term, but this decision was justified by the responsibility and desire to avoid a situation when the second round of an encounter between right-wing and extreme right-wing. You know, in France, after each presidential term as if required the alternation of political forces: France difficult to govern, there are high demands which are not always met, and five years later rhythms only accelerated. Politics requires long-term, and democracy is not just changing channels. This steady action, which is able to take root in time. What concerns me most today is the vulnerability of democracies and the fact that populists are setting up citizens against each other.
— By the way, what do You think of Matteo Salvini (Matteo Salvini)?
— He certainly exploits the lack of understanding of Italian European policy of the last several years and, in particular, the consequences of the Dublin agreement. I want to be fair: the first question in the European Council put Matteo Renzi (Matteo Renzi), asking to amend it. Today Italy will not be able to deal with this issue independently. If Europe of 27 countries is not able to give answers, you need to make sure we could fulfill their duty, consisting in the observance of the right to asylum and the repatriation of those migrants who don’t want to stay on the European territory. The only way out is cooperation.
— Are you afraid of the Alliance of Le Pen-Salvini ahead of the European elections?
— The extreme right is a threat to Europe. They want to get out of the Euro zone and in the long run — out of the EU. They do not need another Europe, they want to restore what they call “sovereignty”. If they are in the Euro zone and the European Union, they must abide by their rules, they do not impose anything. They are free, as demonstrated Brakcet. Exit from the EU possible, as leaving the Euro, and we have seen the risks faced because of this Greece. I am sure that the Italians, like the French, even if they criticize Europe, I don’t want to secede, knowing how many issues it caused in the United Kingdom, and knowing that a strong currency serves as their protection.
— Why a European citizen should be proud that he is part of the European Union?
— And we know the other continent, where freedoms are guaranteed in the same way as here? We know the continent where the world appears to be installed once and for all? The continent where the stability of the currency were protected would be just as good?
— The forces of the left in Europe generally find themselves in a difficult situation before the elections of 2019…
In 2012, the left was also in the minority round table of the European Council sat five or six leaders of the 28 who were able to Express their belonging to the European socialist party. Renzi came later, and it was important reinforcement in terms of what we could do to reorient Europe, especially in terms of the economy. Today the leftist forces were even more difficult situation for populists. On the one hand, the left-wing populists accuse the socialists that they are European movement open to the world. On the other hand, right-wing populists to exploit the issue of immigration to throw in this benchmark the poorer categories of the population, those who traditionally vote for the left. Social democracy is caught in a vise.
In the book “the President can’t say in any case” you admit that You remained under the impression of political eloquence, good organization and rhetoric Madame Le Pen, which, as I say, not as cruel as her father. The national front is once again in the second round of the presidential election. How do You imagine the future of the National front here in France?
— “National front” flirts with the identity, and therefore, with fear of decomposition. Voters need to say that the best way to preserve their identity is to preserve the openness to the world. No big country can not live, withdrawn into itself, in an enclosed space. To demonstrate the disastrous consequences of the policy of the extreme right, it is useful to cite the example of Donald trump. What does trump during these two years? It is the destruction of the international order established after the Second world war, it again calls into question the multilateralism, UN, UNESCO, out of the agreement on combating climate change, agreement on Iran requires that all countries with trade surplus with the U.S., refusing to export. Such nationalist policies. It causes uncertainty, insecurity and helplessness.
— What is the relationship between cinema and political power?
— I have had a huge influence of the Italian cinema, when I was interested in politics. I remember the movies of Ettore Skoly (Ettore Scola), Carlo Pazolini (Carlo Pasolini), “Case Mattei” by Francesco Rosi (Francesco Rosi). These films played an important role in the passion of my generation in politics, they drew attention to the problems of democracy, the fight against corruption. Whenever weakens the message in the film, his creative power, when the movies less look, this has a negative impact on democracy. Cinema allows you to take a critical look at the world. Culture and creativity are integral elements of the struggle in which we must participate. And this applies even in Europe: the need to protect European production in the collision with the rapid development of the huge American media such as “Netflix” (Netflix). It is necessary to introduce duties in respect of the four GATE media giants (Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple), to develop a strong film industry.
— How do You imagine your future in politics? You are going to nominate his candidacy at the next presidential election?
— It is important to freely Express their opinion without linking themselves with the pre-election term, because the best way to be heard is to show your disinterest. I realized my purpose, I was the President of the Republic. Now I want to deal with new challenges — environmental, technological and demographic. I don’t lead a political party. I’m trying to share my experience and benefit.
— In your book You write about the Emanuele Macron: “In his case clearly expressed will of great charm and help him in all things,” and about himself: “I attribute the habit to prefer a balance of courage, dialogue credibility, be wary of surprise; while the spirit of the time, we said, required courage, swiftness and harshness”. What do You think, at the moment in the world there are political leaders that combine both the will and prudence, fearlessness and a willingness to dialogue?
— There are those brave souls who sometimes face disappointment. There is cautious, which in the end bemoan the fact that they did not have enough courage, but it’s too late. I put myself near the partisans of compromise, those who seek to maintain a balance between the authority and simplicity that is the principle of democracy.
— Do You feel that the will and the charisma needed today in order to defend and extend some vision, a cause, a political idea that believes man?
To attract better than to scare. But now is the time for provocations. They take the place of discussion: now it is better to write a tweet that will reproduce the other, instead of a long structured speech, which is not necessarily understood. The respect which we owe to the human intellect, is to refer not to the womb of the citizen, and to his head. I’m still convinced this hierarchy of bodies.
— Ségolène Royal (Ségolène Royal) claimed that her latest book is a contribution to the movement “Mitu” (MeToo). How do You view this movement and its implications? In Your opinion, it really helped feminists in their struggle?
It intervened. The existence of men which it became possible to convict, forced many others to behave differently. Whenever women are oppressed, men are not getting any better. On the contrary, in the interests of the men themselves to give women the opportunity to be heard, to insist upon their rights.
— The government of Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault (Jean-Marc Ayrault) in the history of the French Republic the first egalitarian government in the full sense of the word. What do You think about the evolution of the role of women in politics and in our society?
Women won their right to vote and will not abandon him. Finally it happened and it was good — both in terms of allocation of posts of responsibility, and dignity. Was a long war for control of their own bodies, access to contraception and even abortion rights. Today it is a struggle of a different nature — respect for physical integrity and equality from all points of view.
— Movement of the “yellow jackets” was organized a series of protests on Saturday, November 17 throughout France against the increase in fuel prices and taxes planned by the government. You understand the reasons for this protest? How do You assess the steps taken by the authorities of Paris?
The protest was large, deep, sometimes contradictory in their demands. Dissatisfaction is due to purchasing power and tax justice. And the government should respond quickly, because this movement is not structured and not orderly. It can be deflected in another direction or fall apart, but the anger does not subside.
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